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Punishing Work: A Dominatrix Pens Memoir
Q: What made you want to spank people?
A: I'd always been infatuated with the city's seedy underbelly, with secret lives. I don't know why. I grew up on Cape Cod; I was a good student. When I was in collegeat The New School in New York CityI discovered that one of my neighbors was a dominatrix. I talked to her and was intrigued; she was a student too, so it seemed doable. I answered an ad in The Village Voice for a role-playing "sexy nurse."
Q: What did you wear to your sexy-nurse interview?
A: A little green cardigan and black pants. [laughs] I was overdressed. But it didn't seem to matter. I'd actually stumbled upon one of the fanciest places in town, in terms of commercial dungeons. It was on the fourth floor of an office building near Macy's. The place was stocked with gas masks, straitjackets, coffins, whips, paddles, cages hanging from the ceiling. The windows were blacked out, and the hallways were dark, with burning sconces, mirrors, and Oriental runner rugsvery Eyes Wide Shut. This is where the high rollers went.
Q: Who were the clients?
A: Professionals, men with a lot of power. Men who told people what to do all day and wanted someone to boss them around. We were totally booked up during the Republican convention.
Q: You got to know some of these guys pretty well, right?
A: Yes, most were regulars; they'd come in on their lunch break once a week. They'd tell me about their kids and dogs. A lot of them wanted to re-enact childhood traumas. They wanted to be yelled at for eating junk food. Or they wanted me to be the mean cheerleader and kick their books out of their hands and dunk their head in the toilet. Others had their fetishes; one guy wanted women to crush bugs. Another wanted to be dressed up in sweaters and then hog-tied. Some wanted to be put in a cage with a dog dish and left in there.
Q: Were you spanked as a kid?
A: No, I had a very loving, happy childhoodmy parents are great.
Q: Did your parents know about your dungeon gig?
A: Yes, and they had reservations, needless to say. But they knew that if they told me I couldn't do something, I would just do it anyway.
Q: How did this job affect you psychologically?
A: At first, I thought, I'm playing this very powerful role. I'm bossing men around; I have all the power. After I did it for a while, I realized that I was really conforming to the fantasies of these men. Many of them would tell me what to do, tell me how to dominate them. And so it started to dawn on me that I wasn't really in control. It was my job to humiliate these men, but they were getting off on it, and I actually ended up feeling humiliated myself.
Q: Eventually you switched to a "submissive" role, letting men whip you ...
A: Yes, things got pretty intense and complicated. I started taking submissive sessions, and I had this inner conflict because this didn't fit in with who I thought I was. I was ashamed, because I'd thought of myself as a really empowered person. I didn't tell anyone I knew about these sessions. I began to feel less and less comfortable. After about a year of this, I quit.
Q: Now you teach writing at the State University of New York. What do your students think of your book?
A: I think they'll be surprised! But I don't regret a thing. I'm grateful for the experience; it made me a more compassionate, accepting person, both of others and myself.






